Considering new intelligence that exists between humans and non-humans, between nature and artificiality
Architects from around the world gather at the Venice Biennale International Architecture Exhibition to present ideas for various challenges and the future. This year's exhibition was directed by architect Carlo Ratti, who presented the theme "Intelligens. Natural. Artificial. Collective." Architect Jun Aoki served as curator of the Japan Pavilion, and he engaged in dialogue with the participating artists, starting from a "neutral point (In-Between)." In the completed space, Aoki and participating artist Asako Fujikura discuss the future of manufacturing.

Jun Aoki
The Japan Pavilion is two stories high, with the ground floor showcasing works by Sunagi (Taichi Sunayama & Toshikatsu Kiuchi) and the upper floor showcasing works by Asako Fujikura + Takahiro Omura. A "hole" in the floor of the upper floor connects the two.
Asako Fujikura
For about a year now, Mr. Aoki and I have been meeting almost weekly to discuss topics such as the "neutral point" and future manufacturing as the use of AI advances.
Aoki
That's right. Nature and artificiality, humans and non-humans are not in opposition to each other, but rather the very behavior of the "dialogue" and "response" exchanged between them can become the subject of creation, or a new intelligence. Based on this premise, this time the Japan Pavilion building itself is engaged in a dialogue, and humans join in as equals to discuss the future of the Japan Pavilion. Iemura Tamayo and I wrote the original draft of the scenario, but it was Fujikura and Omura who ultimately put it together.
Fujikura
The scenario itself seemed to function as a prompt for the entire exhibition. You were also conscious of the gap between "fiction" and "actual."
Aoki
Yes. When you actually experience the work, you first encounter the work on the ground floor and then see the video above through the hole. At that point, the ground floor feels real, and the upper floors feel fictional. But when you look down after experiencing the video on the upper floors, the lower floors feel more like fiction.
Fujikura
It's not like one is the other, it's a relationship that is always reversing.
Aoki
Yes. Fiction and reality keep alternating like a Möbius strip. I think it worked well.
Fujikura
There is a different feeling to the two-layered work, one that compromises or blends with the other.
Aoki
I guess it feels like they exist as separate, independent entities.
Fujikura
This may be the goal at this point, but at the same time, I get the impression that it is a "neutral point."
Aoki
In other words, it's not a destination, but a dynamic fixed point. It's as if we're constantly moving towards that state of equilibrium. I hope that the word "neutral point" can convey this feeling. The existence of the "hole" played a major role in making this a reality.
Fujikura
It has become a main character. I feel like I was able to realize the idea of the hole being a hole.
Aoki
That's right. I've seen the exhibits at the Japan Pavilion many times, and everyone tries to make use of the holes. But in this exhibit, there was meaning in the holes existing as holes.
Fujikura
It was a fictional renovation, and I feel like it changed the way we looked at the building rather than just adding something to it.


